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Post by nomar33 on May 4, 2011 15:11:57 GMT -5
Sam Prescott abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/sports&id=6722385Team was 32-1 - State Champs and Prescott was MVP Candon Rusin Rusin averaged 28.3 points, 6.7 rebounds and 4.6 assists per game last season at Twin Valley High School in Vermont. A gifted shooter, Rusin connected on 70 three-pointers, hitting over 40 percent of his attempts from long distance. He shot 49 percent from the field and 13 games of 30 points or more. For his senior year, he has transferred to Topsail High School in North Carolina. Rob Johnson At Centennial High School, Johnson was named Second Team All-Region, All-State Honorable Mention and his league's Most Valuable Player in 2007. In 2008, he earned Second Team All-Region honors. This past year at Edison Prep, Johnson was named his team's Offensive and Defensive Player of the Year, as he averaged 17 points and eight rebounds per game. No argument here these kids are winners - we had a state champion mvp with a 32-1 team, we had a guy who avg. 28 points a game, and another who avg. 17 and 8 rbs - all the guys mentioned above are no more impressive then these guys coming out of HS..... they are young and will not succeed in year one in college PERIOD - everyone here said that we where expecting too much last year and the year before because we where so young now some of those same people are saying 10+ wins next year.... please
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Post by alum76 on May 4, 2011 15:17:36 GMT -5
Overall, I agree with Ken's assessment, and I would rather set more modest expectations, given just how young this team is ( possibily as many as 6 FR.). I just loved Chavaughn's coach's statement that he'd take his player ( Lewis ) over Villanova bound Achraf Yacoubouj.
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Post by igotyouback on May 4, 2011 16:02:39 GMT -5
Not a different breed of human but a different breed of ball player. It like finding a top 10 football recruit in New York not going to happen. Now if you go down South than you might find all 10 in one state.
I am also not saying that these kids are going to come in and go 33-0. But what I am saying is that these kids are going to skip a gear. Think about this these kids are out playing in tournaments together what does that tell you about them. Off season is just as important and the season.
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Post by pearl777 on May 4, 2011 16:51:30 GMT -5
Some of you guys seem to have more of a basketball mind than others some of you seem to have let the years of losing make you come off as a doubter. I guess there are no freshmen that have ever dominated in d-1 basketball give me a break just look at the last few years of college bball. I saw prescott and rusin several times last year I will take lewis over any one of them after just coaching him. First of all he is a legit 6 5" and then he can handle the ball to create for others and for himself the other players struggled at times creating. My most important point was overlooked which is being the full package what about there academics. Kids who fail in school are not the full package. Secondly morton is no less dynamic than erving walker florida and isiah thomas washington who both players would dominate the maac. After watching morton this weekend against several high mid major 6 3" guys the kid is going to kill the maac. Not to mention curry and thomas, you guys said they will win 10 games thats a joke with no other big they will win 15 with another big somewhere around 20 in my opinion and Im usually not to far off been doing this for a while.
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Post by ctalum on May 4, 2011 16:56:47 GMT -5
Everyone looks good on paper however games not won on paper.
With all the kids CM has brought in to date only one made the all freshman team and 0 have made any all MAAC teams.
As good as the players may be they still need to be coached and to date CM has shown little overall coaching ability. Games are won with team play and defense not palyground up and down the court.
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Post by ggaff on May 4, 2011 17:19:11 GMT -5
I'm with Pearl on this one.. Prescott played against decent competition. These guys played against the best competition. Rusin played against nothing. Can they bond as a team? We'll see. The clips certainly tell the story on their talent. There aren't many stiffs on the court in those NYC games. Lewis and Morton have much more ability than anything seen in these parts in a while. The bonding as a team is going to be the question. Sounds good so far. I do think they need one more big to free up the perimeter people to show their stuff. Teams will have trouble stopping Morton. They've had nobody who even comes close to him in penetrating ability recently. The kid is lightning. He's got great mechanics on his shot as well. Can't say that about others recently.
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Post by nomar33 on May 4, 2011 17:31:09 GMT -5
I guess there are no freshmen that have ever dominated in d-1 basketball give me a break just look at the last few years of college
Absolutely I believe that there are freshman that can dominate in d1 - they just are not going to Marist - the closest we had was probabley Jay Gavin.
15 as is - hmmm that seems like a stretch but if i'm wrong here GREAT
and yes what i do like most is they are already playing together
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Post by petagay77 on May 4, 2011 17:40:22 GMT -5
I'm with Pearl on this one.. Prescott played against decent competition. These guys played against the best competition. Rusin played against nothing. Can they bond as a team? We'll see. The clips certainly tell the story on their talent. There aren't many stiffs on the court in those NYC games. Lewis and Morton have much more ability than anything seen in these parts in a while. The bonding as a team is going to be the question. Sounds good so far. I do think they need one more big to free up the perimeter people to show their stuff. Teams will have trouble stopping Morton. They've had nobody who even comes close to him in penetrating ability recently. The kid is lightning. He's got great mechanics on his shot as well. Can't say that about others recently. Im with pearl also .. Im in total agreement with the 'full' /complete student athlete point of view ... Sam was a good player but who knows if he would find his way to the court this coming season ... Im hearing he transfered because Marist academic work load was too much for him. He would actually have to be in school year round to stay on the court. I respect his hard work to get it done last season but that suck for a 20 years old to have to be in the class room all summer just to play bball. Marist was just too much for him to handle.
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Post by ken on May 4, 2011 19:12:09 GMT -5
I'm in total agreement that being a good student completes the "student"- athlete package. These kids want to be here and we all agree that Marist is arguably the best college in the MAAC. So the recruits chose well. And CM had to chose good students. His job is on the line, if not next year then absolutely the following year. If another one of his recruits loses his eligibility due to academics CM will be looking for a new job. Being a good student also makes learning a new system, in this case the DD, easier. So yes the transition should be a lot smoother than with some of the past CM recruits. That still does not make them MAAC men. They will still be learning to play college hoops. The game will be faster than in HS, the players will be better and bigger than in HS. The recruits were the best players on their teams, in their leagues, in their region or city. Well this should not be news but it obviously has to be pointed out to some here - so were most of the other players who start in the MAAC. For instance does anyone think Derrick Needham was sitting on the bench in HS and finally emerged when he got to Fairfield. Get real please.
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Post by petagay77 on May 4, 2011 19:54:11 GMT -5
Ken your forgetting that 6/7 out of 10 MAAC teams are as young and inexperience just like Marist (in the same boat) .. for example, Canisus just signed 7 guys (half a roster) .. they have to deal w/ the same type of things we are dealing with (chemestry) ... same w/ Niagara, Siena and Manhattan (new coach/players) ... just saying .. Marist cant suck forever .. we should be pretty solid this year.
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Post by yankee on May 4, 2011 19:59:09 GMT -5
"Marist can't suck forever". Line of the year petagay:). These guys got talent, but as I say way too much, but its THE DAMN TRUTH. Their confidence will be sapped if they are forced to play inside because their are no other options.
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Post by petagay77 on May 4, 2011 20:03:29 GMT -5
Fyi .. Derrick Needham only has one D1 offer coming out of HS (coming out of Chicago) {Fairfield} and Cooley wasnt even there to recruit him. He fell in Cooley lay recruiting another player ... I think he just relish the opportunity and went crazy his freshmen year ...
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Post by dewd on May 4, 2011 21:17:20 GMT -5
I must admit it that I am a rookie when it comes to seeing a high school player turn into a Marist or MAAC player, so I do not really know how to judge these new guys coming in (and some of you thought I’d never admit to not knowing what I am talking about!).
These guys all look good on tape, have the right attitude and had impressive HS careers and they look great to me so far, but I wonder if they just look that great because of the level they were playing against. Only time will tell.
I hear Morton compared to Keydren Clark a lot, who came into the MAAC as a freshman and did very well all 4 years. He was on the short side too. If we have something like him here, then we will be good at the PG for 4 years. There have been a number of freshmen who have contributed right from the start of their MAAC careers, including Needham mentioned earlier. Its possible we will have more than one contributing freshman next year. That is what helped create Siena’s run. Most of their players who were good seniors contributed right away as freshmen. What I like about these guys is we seem to have guys who can score, guys who can pass, guys who like to rebound and play defense. Each one of the new guys seems to fill a unique role. You gotta like the lunchpail guys like Thomas and Curry. However, as they say, you can’t teach height and we definitely could use more size, so lets hope we get another big or two in here, especially the lunchpail types who would enjoy rebounding, blocking shots, clogging up the middle and sending those outlet passes to Morton so he can push the ball up the floor so Lewis can slam home a tomahawk jam. Sounds like the bigs we are chasing now (e.g. Barnett) are the lunchpail types.
I am optimistic and looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. You negative guys should learn to be optimistic once in a while. It will put a smile on your face, some hop in your step and people will like you better. BTW, where’s jgood?
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Post by yankee on May 4, 2011 21:26:52 GMT -5
Its not being negative to say Marist needs to sign a couple big guys when they have Kemp and Prinsloo as their bigs. Its called reality. If you want these kids to be beat down by having to play on the interior, good luck with that. That is what sapped alot of Martins first recruiting class. He had to play small guys up front and they got demolished. That is a killer.
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Post by oldfox on May 4, 2011 21:28:18 GMT -5
I am optimistic and looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. You negative guys should learn to be optimistic once in a while. It will put a smile on your face, some hop in your step and people will like you better. BTW, where’s jgood? www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vBnJyOUWdM
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