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Post by oldfox on Feb 25, 2024 23:00:48 GMT -5
i don’t think he was calling out specific players. Least of all Price who went 6-6 from the foul line because he was battling around the rim. I think he was giving his general impression of why the second half devolved.
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Post by foxfanatic on Feb 26, 2024 0:16:37 GMT -5
This year has been a positive step - but if they are satisfied or talk about "effort" in games like this then they won't take the next step - and that is an important one. They lost to a conference foe, on the road, who has lost 1 conference game with Washington in lineup. ONE. They also lost their best player minutes before game. I am just tired of knowing the bullshit that will he posted on here after every loss. And if they win, we all say " good job" and that is it. You guys feast on the negative because you hate TM. It's just run it's course, at least to me. I will continue to hope Marist wins. But you know what is gnawing at me. I KNOW some of you have your damning posts ready if Marist finishes 3rd, but gets knocked out by 6 seed. I would also be disappointed, but you guys will LOVE to bash them if it happens. If they get to final, it will be, " they beat a vulnerable opponent, but can they get it done in the final". It's like you don't remember the shit the program was before Dunne. Respect the improvement and hope for more. Jesus, it's just tiresome. Yes, but again for 30 minutes they were playing better and when it was important, they execution was not good. That is concerning. Doesn't matter how well the first 30 minutes went, you need to admit they did not play well to finish. St. Peter's executed better and played with more urgency. Yes, it sucks that Allen was out, might be why Price was less effective down the stretch, but still need to finish when you lead most of the second half
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Post by yankee on Feb 26, 2024 6:43:16 GMT -5
They lost to a conference foe, on the road, who has lost 1 conference game with Washington in lineup. ONE. They also lost their best player minutes before game. I am just tired of knowing the bullshit that will he posted on here after every loss. And if they win, we all say " good job" and that is it. You guys feast on the negative because you hate TM. It's just run it's course, at least to me. I will continue to hope Marist wins. But you know what is gnawing at me. I KNOW some of you have your damning posts ready if Marist finishes 3rd, but gets knocked out by 6 seed. I would also be disappointed, but you guys will LOVE to bash them if it happens. If they get to final, it will be, " they beat a vulnerable opponent, but can they get it done in the final". It's like you don't remember the shit the program was before Dunne. Respect the improvement and hope for more. Jesus, it's just tiresome. Yes, but again for 30 minutes they were playing better and when it was important, they execution was not good. That is concerning. Doesn't matter how well the first 30 minutes went, you need to admit they did not play well to finish. St. Peter's executed better and played with more urgency. Yes, it sucks that Allen was out, might be why Price was less effective down the stretch, but still need to finish when you lead most of the second half You act as if Allen doesn't change how St. Peters is able to defend. Without Allen, they can extend their defenders out to 3 pt line. Marist wins how many games in a row?, but now they lose, on road, and it's a bad job? What a lack of basketball knowledge, not able to recognize the situation fan base we are
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 26, 2024 7:22:16 GMT -5
Yeah yesterday WAS a bad job - why can't you accept that. You should be upset about how they collapsed in 2nd half, you shouldn't be happy that they blew a 13 point lead - but honestly it just seems like you don't care one way or another.
They didn't get it done period. Everyone here is talking about yesterdays game not the season.
I've said it a million times - if we keep the freshman & Allen and add a couple of pieces this will be a successful season with a winning record. If we lose a few players then this season is eh? Yeah I am one who is just 100% sure what this team can do against good teams with a schedule at the absolute bottom of ALL D1
You also seem to think this team is built to win the MAAC - I don't think we are there yet - we made great strides towards that, but not there IMO. Getting to the Championship game last year was a fluke (a fun fluke but a fluke none the less)
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Feb 26, 2024 8:18:09 GMT -5
Yeah yesterday WAS a bad job - why can't you accept that. You should be upset about how they collapsed in 2nd half, you shouldn't be happy that they blew a 13 point lead - but honestly it just seems like you don't care one way or another. They didn't get it done period. Everyone here is talking about yesterdays game not the season. I've said it a million times - if we keep the freshman & Allen and add a couple of pieces this will be a successful season with a winning record. If we lose a few players then this season is eh? Yeah I am one who is just 100% sure what this team can do against good teams with a schedule at the absolute bottom of ALL D1 You also seem to think this team is built to win the MAAC - I don't think we are there yet - we made great strides towards that, but not there IMO. Getting to the Championship game last year was a fluke (a fun fluke but a fluke none the less) i have to disagree with you a bit . I think this team "is " built for the MAAC tourney championship . We were the better team talent wise , depth wise yesterday . And i think we match up with any team in the MAAC . Most teams change drastically year to year because of the portal .For that reason , i don't think more than a year at a time . When i say its looking more and more that this is our year it is because we do have all the pieces more so than any year in recent memory . So yes ,bad job yesterday by team, good job done by Price filling in ,he did seize his moment i wish McCool could give us a little more when he's in there . But we're all sticking with the team this year ...they've got the pieces ..the upcoming 4 games in 9 days is going to tell us a lot ..
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 26, 2024 8:33:53 GMT -5
D2 if they win the MAAC tourney - throw it in my face - that would be great
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Post by ggaff on Feb 26, 2024 10:10:32 GMT -5
They gave a game away yes. Every team does. Thats the nature of basketball. I think the constant game by game changing of the narrative is ridiculous. Your opinion of a team or program shouldn't change because of one ten minute stretch. They are a very good team and can win the tournament. They had won five in a row. They had a slip up. Now they bounce back. They could lose to Fairfield. That still doesn't change the narrative.
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Post by oldfox on Feb 26, 2024 11:08:49 GMT -5
What changes the narrative is whether Max Allen is wearing a sneaker or a boot on Friday night.
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Post by foxfanatic on Feb 26, 2024 13:28:19 GMT -5
Yes, but again for 30 minutes they were playing better and when it was important, they execution was not good. That is concerning. Doesn't matter how well the first 30 minutes went, you need to admit they did not play well to finish. St. Peter's executed better and played with more urgency. Yes, it sucks that Allen was out, might be why Price was less effective down the stretch, but still need to finish when you lead most of the second half You act as if Allen doesn't change how St. Peters is able to defend. Without Allen, they can extend their defenders out to 3 pt line. Marist wins how many games in a row?, but now they lose, on road, and it's a bad job? What a lack of basketball knowledge, not able to recognize the situation fan base we are Yes it absolutely does but again for 30 minutes Marist was figuring a way on how to play well without Allen. Then St Peter's adjusted and we did nothing to respond. That concerns me.
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Post by oldfox on Feb 26, 2024 14:21:21 GMT -5
You act as if Allen doesn't change how St. Peters is able to defend. Without Allen, they can extend their defenders out to 3 pt line. Marist wins how many games in a row?, but now they lose, on road, and it's a bad job? What a lack of basketball knowledge, not able to recognize the situation fan base we are Yes it absolutely does but again for 30 minutes Marist was figuring a way on how to play well without Allen. Then St Peter's adjusted and we did nothing to respond. That concerns me. Dunne may have addressed the lack of adjustment in the postgame interview with Eggink. I don’t remember exactly but he did say something along the lines of “they (St Peter’s) went 1-3-1 when we were up 10 maybe I could have called a time out but I wanted to save them for the end of the game. We weren’t organized……”. The interview starts around the 2:40 mark. Eggink remarks after that are interesting too. Marist @ St. Peter’s Audio
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Post by leo16 on Feb 26, 2024 19:28:46 GMT -5
Marist still favored for the 5 seed
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Post by ggaff on Feb 27, 2024 7:51:39 GMT -5
Hopefully no boot. My point was that there is a big difference between the program now and where we were. He's assembled a young championship caliber team. They aren't responsible for the past failures. They were up 13 on the road against a top team. They didn't have their inside presence a guy who opens up a lot of things. The loss sucked. This group is a resilient bunch.
Why are we talking about the 5 seed over one loss? No knock on you Leo. You provided good info and it is very important. They are a game out in the loss column from first. They are a good team. They will be fine.
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Post by ggaff on Feb 27, 2024 8:12:30 GMT -5
They are definitely built for a title run. No other team has the depth they have. And defense keeps you in on off nights. My point about analyzing games is that you can do that with every team. Bad losses happen. Is Quinny done? No. But they play no D so on an off shooting night a lower team could knock them off. Same with Fairfield.
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Post by petagay77 on Mar 1, 2024 21:10:16 GMT -5
Marist is below average without Max Allen. That's obvious. Idk why there was so much complaining on this thread.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 23, 2024 11:07:31 GMT -5
My bad ... great job guys - you really gave it your all, so things didn't fall your way, don't worry its only a game.... let's go out for ice cream. When did everyone get so soft and just accept losing and praise it - they blew a 13 point lead, that would upset some people www.si.com/college/ncstate/basketball/ice-cream-social-directorThey were talking on the broadcast Thursday about how the team goes out for ice cream after every road win ..haha
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