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Post by nomar33 on Mar 22, 2024 18:08:44 GMT -5
Well Dartmouth is the first to Unionize let’s see where THAT goes
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 22, 2024 18:12:15 GMT -5
I do disagree with Nomar33’ and his out of touch 80’s approach. NCAA and Colleges make millions off these athletes and it’s the athletes fault they’re looking out for their best interest? It's gone to far the other way. Has to be a balance some where. Players should not be able to just use schools as 1 year stopovers. Those schools are giving free educations. One free transfer, then have to sit a year for another transfer seems fair. Just a thought , but we almost had full college loan relief for all students , what would be your argument then about getting a free education ?
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Post by nomar33 on Mar 22, 2024 18:18:11 GMT -5
As a country we would have to be open to paying quite a bit more taxes - we are one of the least taxed countries in the world www.crfb.org/blogs/us-highest-taxed-nation-worldAlso gonna be hard to sell before free healthcare In Georgia the Hope Scholarship (funded by lottery) covers over 80% of all costs for public colleges - including UGA
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 22, 2024 18:22:52 GMT -5
just saying that ran through my head when Biden forgave/ excused all student debt , before it was overturned . The argument of players getting a free education as a benefit goes away because everyone would have gotten a free education.
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Post by nomar33 on Mar 22, 2024 18:25:52 GMT -5
I got no problem paying these kids - but there needs to be a balance. I always hated that I wasn't even allowed to get a job because that was against NCAA rules. A scholarship is not enough to live on - but add another $5K-$10K that should be plenty to enjoy life at college
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Post by yankee on Mar 22, 2024 18:33:42 GMT -5
like Skyscaper said, you’re a hater. First the players, then less fortunate economical families and then people from the south. I like how you ran from those comments. You spend all day thinking about things to complain about online? So all the NCAA and sports programs not making money are the kids (players fault). Maybe your generation that run these programs (colleges, coaches and NCAA) should have done a better job running/managing them. Schools eventually are going to get tired of offering scholarships to players for one year. If this keeps happening, many schools gonna drop from D1. Then guess what? A lot of kids will not have scholarships available anymore. If it doesn't change, players gonna wreck themselves. Only top programs will keep scholarships.
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Post by jeter2 on Mar 22, 2024 18:39:43 GMT -5
I got no problem paying these kids - but there needs to be a balance. I always hated that I wasn't even allowed to get a job because that was against NCAA rules. A scholarship is not enough to live on - but add another $5K-$10K that should be plenty to enjoy life at college let me get this right, your solution to the problem your generation created is to promote more gambling? There is no way in the 80’s that the NCAA wouldn’t allow you to get a job. That’s is just not true and proving my point about you just complaining about everything. You may have not been able to during the season (but how would you have the time playing D1 in-season). Off season you 100% could work.
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Post by nomar33 on Mar 22, 2024 18:49:16 GMT -5
It is so hard to argue with someone so dense
2007 rules changed
“The new rule, which governs Division I schools and takes effect in August offers a mixed bag. Most folk agree that athletes deserve the opportunity to work and earn their own money — just like other students. But college athletic officials fear that monitoring jobs is sure to create monumental headaches for every athletic department.”
Prior to that they were not allowed to work. The NCAAs thought was that some school would have kids “working” at an alums car dealership making $$ but never actually showing up to work
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Post by foxfanatic on Mar 22, 2024 19:06:20 GMT -5
The players attitude have to be thrown a bit on their parents and AAU coaches. They're continually told they are special and they should focus on themselves. Unfortunately I don't think team work is taught to a lot of these top tier athletes. Also AAU coaches are trying to make their resume look the best, so they want their players to move up if they can.
There's a lot of issues with the system. The big one is college basketball and football are money making industries and the players are finally starting to get their fair share. This has trickled down to every athlete when it should mainly be applied to the top tier college athletes
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Post by oldfox on Mar 22, 2024 19:28:06 GMT -5
like Skyscaper said, you’re a hater. First the players, then less fortunate economical families and then people from the south. I like how you ran from those comments. You spend all day thinking about things to complain about online? So all the NCAA and sports programs not making money are the kids (players fault). Maybe your generation that run these programs (colleges, coaches and NCAA) should have done a better job running/managing them. Schools eventually are going to get tired of offering scholarships to players for one year. If this keeps happening, many schools gonna drop from D1. Then guess what? A lot of kids will not have scholarships available anymore. If it doesn't change, players gonna wreck themselves. Only top programs will keep scholarships. Yankee makes a real point. This is not hyperbole. The athletic tail doesn’t wag the dog at the vast majority of D1 colleges. They justify athletic scholarship as a way to help talented athletes become a contributing member of a college community, learn life skills, and earn a degree. It’s not entertainment to sell to the networks for a profit. Turning over the roster every year defeats the purpose most schools invest in scholarships in the first place. Somewhere between the chaotic free agency of today and indentured servitude there has to be a way to rationalize player movement that works for both the players and the schools.
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Post by oldfox on Mar 22, 2024 19:43:47 GMT -5
The players attitude have to be thrown a bit on their parents and AAU coaches. They're continually told they are special and they should focus on themselves. Unfortunately I don't think team work is taught to a lot of these top tier athletes. Also AAU coaches are trying to make their resume look the best, so they want their players to move up if they can. There's a lot of issues with the system. The big one is college basketball and football are money making industries and the players are finally starting to get their fair share. This has trickled down to every athlete when it should mainly be applied to the top tier college athletes I think this is a great market based model for compensating athletes for use of their name, image and likeness. EA Sports Signs 10,000 plus FBS players to “Appear” in Video Game
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 10:47:30 GMT -5
I for one, am happy that these kids have the opportunity to move up to bigger and better schools. I bleed the red and white just as much as the next guy but Fair is fair.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 23, 2024 11:00:44 GMT -5
I for one, am happy that these kids have the opportunity to move up to bigger and better schools. I bleed the red and white just as much as the next guy but Fair is fair. Are you by any chance related to Skyscraper ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 11:02:47 GMT -5
I got no problem paying these kids - but there needs to be a balance. I always hated that I wasn't even allowed to get a job because that was against NCAA rules. A scholarship is not enough to live on - but add another $5K-$10K that should be plenty to enjoy life at college I actually agree with Jeter2. He makes a lot of great points, and I think people on this thread are bullying him. That’s not right and that’s not what this thread is all about.
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Post by nomar33 on Mar 23, 2024 11:08:00 GMT -5
You have been on board for 5 min - yeah you're not friends with him. He makes ZERO great points. Bullying him - please snowflake If you actually read their posts - they make ZERO points
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