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Post by maristforward on Mar 12, 2023 18:18:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the NCAA/legal line is drawn, but I know that if Marist doesn't get somewhere onto that slope, then they will continue to lose recruits. I know of at least 4 MAAC schools with NIL clubs that are "supported" by their institutions. I'm not sure what "supported" means in this context, but I have no reason to believe they aren't in compliance with NCAA rules. At the very least, they've been promoted on the schools social media and are a recruiting edge that we are intentionally giving away. There you go again, "intentionally giving away"? Yes intentionally giving away. Schools with NIL clubs have an addition enticement that schools without NIL clubs don't have. NIL clubs are a recruiting advantange for the schools that have them. Coaches have asked for Marist to support/encourage/promote/(insert verb here) a Marist NIL club just like other schools in the MAAC. TM has told the coaches no. TM has intentionally chosen not to have this tool coaches say they need.
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:23:53 GMT -5
There you go again, "intentionally giving away"? Yes intentionally giving away. Schools with NIL clubs have an addition enticement that schools without NIL clubs don't have. NIL clubs are a recruiting advantange for the schools that have them. Coaches have asked for Marist to support/encourage/promote/(insert verb here) a Marist NIL club just like other schools in the MAAC. TM has told the coaches no. TM has intentionally chosen not to have this tool coaches say they need. The problem is you Don't KNOW this, you are going off 2nd hand conversations. Secondly, Marist not wanting to have an NIL club might just be the right decision, IF TRUE
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 12, 2023 18:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 12, 2023 18:27:45 GMT -5
There you go again, "intentionally giving away"? Yes intentionally giving away. Schools with NIL clubs have an addition enticement that schools without NIL clubs don't have. NIL clubs are a recruiting advantange for the schools that have them. Coaches have asked for Marist to support/encourage/promote/(insert verb here) a Marist NIL club just like other schools in the MAAC. TM has told the coaches no. TM has intentionally chosen not to have this tool coaches say they need. i can see Dunne getting frustrated and leaving over this kind of stuff .,
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:30:03 GMT -5
From the NCAA’s interim NIL policy: “While opening NIL activities to student-athletes, the policy leaves in place the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those prohibitions would remain in effect.” NIL club sounds risky with this information, no?
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Post by maristforward on Mar 12, 2023 18:36:30 GMT -5
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 12, 2023 18:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by maristforward on Mar 12, 2023 18:41:02 GMT -5
Yes intentionally giving away. Schools with NIL clubs have an addition enticement that schools without NIL clubs don't have. NIL clubs are a recruiting advantange for the schools that have them. Coaches have asked for Marist to support/encourage/promote/(insert verb here) a Marist NIL club just like other schools in the MAAC. TM has told the coaches no. TM has intentionally chosen not to have this tool coaches say they need. i can see Dunne getting frustrated and leaving over this kind of stuff ., Pretty much any coach at Marist has plenty of reasons to leave. The list of reasons to stay is a lot shorter.
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:41:25 GMT -5
Should colleges whose mission is to be an academic institution, an institution for higher learning, get involved with this stuff? Nope. The argument that others do it doesn't always fly. To be better you sometimes sacrifice to protect doing the right thing. As they say with the Brooklyn bridge......
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:42:10 GMT -5
i can see Dunne getting frustrated and leaving over this kind of stuff ., Pretty much any coach at Marist has plenty of reasons to leave. The list of reasons to stay is a lot shorter. If they want to leave, just leave. Plenty of others will want the jobs.
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Post by maristforward on Mar 12, 2023 18:46:20 GMT -5
Pretty much any coach at Marist has plenty of reasons to leave. The list of reasons to stay is a lot shorter. If they want to leave, just leave. Plenty of others will want the jobs. Yes, that attitude has worked so well with the recent hires.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 12, 2023 18:48:29 GMT -5
but Murray has to adapt to the times ...i know it sounds great to romanticize about the way things were , but we don't need to be living without electricity and driving a buggy ..
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:51:19 GMT -5
If they want to leave, just leave. Plenty of others will want the jobs. Yes, that attitude has worked so well with the recent hires. At some point, some institutions need to take a stand. They are giving these student athletes scholarships. They should not now become brokers/middle men. Take a stand as an institution of higher learning. Their mission is not to succeed in athletics at all costs possible. More schools need to stand for the right thing. Players and their advisors can get the deals, or does Marist want to get in the sleaze that Miami has in the past and now currently?
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Post by yankee on Mar 12, 2023 18:52:44 GMT -5
but Murray has to adapt to the times ...i know it sounds great to romanticize about the way things were , but we don't need to be living without electricity and driving a buggy .. This is why society has been steadily declining. We give in because others are, so we have to too.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 12, 2023 18:58:55 GMT -5
but Murray has to adapt to the times ...i know it sounds great to romanticize about the way things were , but we don't need to be living without electricity and driving a buggy .. This is why society has been steadily declining. We give in because others are, so we have to too. i would always expect Murray to keep it clean ,,like he always has for years and years ...but certainly not be a deterannce to the kids that want to pursue this ,that they can rightfully pursue ..the one thing i do know about Murray ,,he can be a dick sometimes
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