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Post by nomar33 on Mar 19, 2013 12:14:43 GMT -5
nice list coachrt
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Post by petagay77 on Mar 19, 2013 13:16:36 GMT -5
I happen to follow a number of message boards and it is amazing how people just recycle the same "hot" coaching names. I understand most people don't have intimate knowledge of candidates and only go off of what they hear in the media as the latest and greatest next coach. The same thing happens with AD's. They all get caught up with trying to make a splash without trying to find someone that fits their institutional values. Hiring an assistant from a top ten program isn't always the best. Those guys operate on a totally different level and don't have the same struggles that mid-low major programs encounter. Vermont is a great example. Two years ago promoted their unknown assistant (John Becker) and bypassed a lot of "hot" named big program Assistants. The results have been nothing but successful. These guys that are toiling away trying to get a break are more often hungrier then most, humble, and will work twice has hard to get it done. The one thing is certain, there is no guarantee whoever you hire will be successful. It is all based on hard work, relationships, and a little bit of luck. I also don't understand why more AD's don't think outside the box. Look at Iona. Cleuss was a lower level coach as was Bozzella their women's coach and both are successful. It is all about the makeup of your coaching staff. If you are a coach with no D1 experience, hire a staff of proven D1 recruiters. Anyway, that is just my opinion and below is a list of potential candidates that could find success at a place like Marist. 1. Stephen Sauers-former Marist Asst....loves the area and would stick around a while 2. Eric Eaton or Sean Doherty-Asst. Coaches Quinnipiac 3. Chris Casey-HC CW Post-former D1 asst. 4. Jeff Brown-HC Middlebury-Former asst. at Vermont 5. Mike Maker-HC Williams-Former D1 Asst. 6. Joe Burke-HC Skidmore-Former Asst. at Navy 7. Joe Esposito-Dir. of Operations U of Minn....Marist alum 8. Reggie Witherspoon-recently let go by U of Buffalo 9. Mike MacDonald-HC Medaille former HC Canisius 10. John Becker-HC Vermont-doubt he would leave though Most all of the lower level mentioned above have been successful head coaches in challenging academic environments. If they surround themselves with the right staff, there is no reason they couldn't win. Since Marist is cash strapped, these guys would come cheap. I'm not saying not to pursue a high profile name, but why not think outside the box a bit more often. BANG!
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Post by ctfoxfan on Mar 19, 2013 13:19:56 GMT -5
coachrt - could be best first post ever. welcome.
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Post by coachrt on Mar 19, 2013 13:21:56 GMT -5
I would be remiss if I didn't put Bob Walsh the HC at Rhode Island College to the list. Former assistant to Tim Welsh at Providence. Very surprised he hasn't gotten a chance yet. What about Tim Welsh. I know he slipped up after he got the job at Hofstra, but maybe enough time has elapsed and he deserves another chance.
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Post by coachrt on Mar 19, 2013 13:32:30 GMT -5
I have a snow day from school so I have time to mindlessly think about things. Let me throw this out there. A few years ago the AD at LIU Brooklyn discovered a formula for hiring coaches. First he hired a successful D2 women's coach in Tony Bozzella and he let them to the NCAA's within 2 years. Then he hired a successful D2 coach in Jim Ferry from Adelphi and he rebuild the program and now he is at Duquense without having had any D1 assistant coaching experience. The problem with college athletics is the pressure is so great that AD's can't take a chance. Only on the women's side is where you could hire a high school coach and get away with it.
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Post by oldfox on Mar 19, 2013 16:22:47 GMT -5
great post coachrt, and on that list I like Mike Maker if he has the northeast connections. D1 experience and has a great record at Williams. However, if they even considered someone like Mike MacDonald, I think my head would explode out of rage. I have to research some of your other names though. I think Marist would do well to hire a guy with at least some responsible experience at the D1 level plus head coaching experience. If that HC experience is at an academically focused school, all the better. It seems it took Martin a couple of seasons to appreciate how Marist defines the term "student-athlete". Can't have that happen again. As yankee points out Maker's resume is an excellent example of that. Only Marist knows if they are cash strapped. I think they just make resource allocation choices they are comfortable with based on their "values" and stick to them. Obviously to the frustration of some of us who would like to see them show some flexibility based on what's happening in the MAAC when it comes to the MBB budget.
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Post by oldfox on Mar 19, 2013 16:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by ggaff on Mar 19, 2013 16:46:28 GMT -5
Good post Pinions. I shouldn't post when I'm frustrated either.I've taken shots that aren't necessarily my true beliefs. I do like the AD and love Giorgis. They both represent the school very well..
Hey, I always liked Sauers but some said he had baggage. I went to school with him. His father was one of the all time greats. Steve knows the game and can recruit. What were the negatives?
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Post by ggaff on Mar 19, 2013 16:54:07 GMT -5
Sauers was responsible for Jordan, Whittington, and Stilphen... Not too shabby. I know one thing. Sauers knows basketball and can recruit. they wouldn't be outcoached with him at the helm. There were not many better than his father...
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Post by yankee on Mar 19, 2013 17:20:38 GMT -5
Sauers was responsible for Jordan, Whittington, and Stilphen... Not too shabby. I know one thing. Sauers knows basketball and can recruit. they wouldn't be outcoached with him at the helm. There were not many better than his father... I have to think their is a reason he hasn't had a head coaching job after all these years assisting, especially when people know his father was such a good coach. I would not like that selection at all.
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Post by ggaff on Mar 19, 2013 17:31:33 GMT -5
I don't have an answer on why he hasn't gotten a head coaching position. I know he controlled the huddles in the Kennedy years... Hopefully, they'll take their time. Someone will want to put Marist on the map..
I do know one thing. He knows the game as well as anyone. If he's got other issues, I'm not aware of them.... Nobody knew the game more than his father. In his day, there aren't many coaches at any level that I'd take over him.
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Post by yankee on Mar 19, 2013 17:38:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but he isn't his father:).
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Post by ggaff on Mar 19, 2013 19:16:15 GMT -5
He's pretty bright. Yankee, I like that Toole from RMU.. Man, if they could land him... He's beating Kentucky late in the first half tonight..
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Post by ggaff on Mar 19, 2013 20:42:26 GMT -5
They beat Kentucky.. Get him Murrays!!!!
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Post by njfox on Mar 19, 2013 20:47:07 GMT -5
Getting Toole just became a little tougher
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