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Post by champ529 on Mar 17, 2023 20:42:04 GMT -5
WOW lol. Hard to believe they would have had the guts to pull the trigger on a non d1 guy directly after Maker but still. Good pull
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Post by nomar33 on Mar 18, 2023 11:17:25 GMT -5
Funny thing is FDU didn't even win the NEC tournament, only the stupid rule that didn't allow Merrimack to win helped FDU to tournament
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Post by oldfox on Mar 18, 2023 12:58:15 GMT -5
The Athletic posed the question “What does FDU’s win mean for March Madness, College Basketball” to a group of national writers. My favorite answer came from Brendan Quinn.
“I want to draw sweeping conclusions about teams built around traditional post centers, and conclusions about the futility of the Big Ten, and conclusions about Matt Painter’s March misery.
But the overwhelming feeling here is that Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further cements the undeniable truth that college basketball’s postseason is superior to every other sport and that if the money-hungry mongrels overseeing power conference ever mess with this formula, they deserve to damned to the fiery pits of hell for all of eternity.
We all know what’s happening on the other side of the fence, where footballs are thrown and the real money resides. Leagues are getting larger and larger, and the desire to protect both pockets and clout is only growing stronger and stronger. I simply can’t shake the fear that some kind of split is looming in the distance, that nights like last night could possibly, potentially, conceivably not exist 10 years from now.
Shudder.
Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further proves that the college basketball world is flat and should forever remain that way. Any five can beat any five, and the world still has a place for underdogs.
No one should ever mess with that.“
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 18, 2023 14:11:55 GMT -5
The Athletic posed the question “What does FDU’s win mean for March Madness, College Basketball” to a group of national writers. My favorite answer came from Brendan Quinn. “I want to draw sweeping conclusions about teams built around traditional post centers, and conclusions about the futility of the Big Ten, and conclusions about Matt Painter’s March misery. But the overwhelming feeling here is that Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further cements the undeniable truth that college basketball’s postseason is superior to every other sport and that if the money-hungry mongrels overseeing power conference ever mess with this formula, they deserve to damned to the fiery pits of hell for all of eternity. We all know what’s happening on the other side of the fence, where footballs are thrown and the real money resides. Leagues are getting larger and larger, and the desire to protect both pockets and clout is only growing stronger and stronger. I simply can’t shake the fear that some kind of split is looming in the distance, that nights like last night could possibly, potentially, conceivably not exist 10 years from now. Shudder. Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further proves that the college basketball world is flat and should forever remain that way. Any five can beat any five, and the world still has a place for underdogs. No one should ever mess with that.“ i thought the talk was more about expansion ...ive never heard any discussion about contraction ..and a lot of expansion is pushed by power conferences ..ive never heard talk like this about the tournament ..its fine now ..makes a lot of money and is near to NFL for betting ..so i dont see a "split " www.si.com/college/2023/03/14/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-expanded-bracket-daily-cover
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Post by oldfox on Mar 18, 2023 15:29:42 GMT -5
The Athletic posed the question “What does FDU’s win mean for March Madness, College Basketball” to a group of national writers. My favorite answer came from Brendan Quinn. “I want to draw sweeping conclusions about teams built around traditional post centers, and conclusions about the futility of the Big Ten, and conclusions about Matt Painter’s March misery. But the overwhelming feeling here is that Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further cements the undeniable truth that college basketball’s postseason is superior to every other sport and that if the money-hungry mongrels overseeing power conference ever mess with this formula, they deserve to damned to the fiery pits of hell for all of eternity. We all know what’s happening on the other side of the fence, where footballs are thrown and the real money resides. Leagues are getting larger and larger, and the desire to protect both pockets and clout is only growing stronger and stronger. I simply can’t shake the fear that some kind of split is looming in the distance, that nights like last night could possibly, potentially, conceivably not exist 10 years from now. Shudder. Fairleigh Dickinson’s win further proves that the college basketball world is flat and should forever remain that way. Any five can beat any five, and the world still has a place for underdogs. No one should ever mess with that.“ i thought the talk was more about expansion ...ive never heard any discussion about contraction ..and a lot of expansion is pushed by power conferences ..ive never heard talk like this about the tournament ..its fine now ..makes a lot of money and is near to NFL for betting ..so i dont see a "split " www.si.com/college/2023/03/14/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-expanded-bracket-daily-coverThe devil as usual is always in the details. I don't believe for one second that people like Greg Sankey care a whit about whether a kid from a team that was playing well for the last 3 weeks of the season misses the tournament. The Greg Sanky's of the college sports world want more power conference teams in the tournament and for longer runs. That means more money for their conference members and regardless if the team is .500 or less, which will happen with regularity when you add 28 teams to the tournament. The top seeded teams will get a bye in the new format and the autobid teams will end up playing off, maybe even against each other. Purdue will never again have to play an "FDU", and if they did it would be after "FDU" has played a game in front of their coaching staff for scouting purposes. Heck if you’re adding 28 teams to the format why are autobids even needed? I mean, shouldn't a team merit selection based on their performance and particularly, their strength of schedule. Remember, football rules the college sports landscape and, in D1 football world, we already have subdivisions. FBS and FCS. Why couldn't we end up there for D1 Basketball? Right? I think this linked article lays out the peril to the popularity of the tournament and mid-majors very well. Expansion doesn't automatically mean more opportunity for mids when the real endgame is more money for the P5 schools. Why expanding the NCAA Tournament will wreck it, and why Greg Sankey and his buddies don't care.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 18, 2023 17:34:55 GMT -5
i would hope if they expand , it would be for ...say an Iona if they lost the tournament ..but had a great season while we (Marist ) would have gotten in with 14 wins ..u would have to look at sos and all the other factors as well but i think an Iona would meet those .
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Post by fox94 on Mar 18, 2023 19:22:47 GMT -5
PU into the sweet 16.
We played them close. Maybe we’re not that far off?
Or am I deluding myself? Either way TM must go
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Post by maristforward on Mar 18, 2023 20:06:52 GMT -5
PU into the sweet 16. We played them close. Maybe we’re not that far off? Or am I deluding myself? Either way TM must go You are deluding yourself. 1) any team can win any game (it isn't always the better team) 2) a full season is a much better indicator of how close a team is to being good 3) TM must go
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 18, 2023 20:47:19 GMT -5
PU into the sweet 16. We played them close. Maybe we’re not that far off? Or am I deluding myself? Either way TM must go You are deluding yourself. 1) any team can win any game (it isn't always the better team) 2) a full season is a much better indicator of how close a team is to being good 3) TM must go posters got on me early in the season for saying it would take a few months for our new ,,freshmen ...portal team to gel ..there were glimpses//so full season indicators along with 4 straight games in the tourney are good indicators ..i really haven't gotten much into the Murray discussion cause honestly we're probably on like the 12th year of that its been a lot of hot air blowing ..
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 19, 2023 7:23:18 GMT -5
The devil as usual is always in the details. I don't believe for one second that people like Greg Sankey care a whit about whether a kid from a team that was playing well for the last 3 weeks of the season misses the tournament. The Greg Sanky's of the college sports world want more power conference teams in the tournament and for longer runs. That means more money for their conference members and regardless if the team is .500 or less, which will happen with regularity when you add 28 teams to the tournament. The top seeded teams will get a bye in the new format and the autobid teams will end up playing off, maybe even against each other. Purdue will never again have to play an "FDU", and if they did it would be after "FDU" has played a game in front of their coaching staff for scouting purposes. Heck if you’re adding 28 teams to the format why are autobids even needed? I mean, shouldn't a team merit selection based on their performance and particularly, their strength of schedule. Remember, football rules the college sports landscape and, in D1 football world, we already have subdivisions. FBS and FCS. Why couldn't we end up there for D1 Basketball? Right? I think this linked article lays out the peril to the popularity of the tournament and mid-majors very well. Expansion doesn't automatically mean more opportunity for mids when the real endgame is more money for the P5 schools. Why expanding the NCAA Tournament will wreck it, and why Greg Sankey and his buddies don't care.i don't think anyone has proposed to do away with the importance of mid majors .Its what drives the excitement of the whole tournament ..i would like to see more teams get in ..bubble teams and more mid majors that deserve it ..just like NILS..nothing wrong with adjusting to the times ..there are those im sure that would still want the 32 team format ..there is just great parity now throughout the country in basketball talent .
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 19, 2023 18:01:40 GMT -5
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 20, 2023 12:52:01 GMT -5
Oregon Ducks (Chuck Martin assistant head coach ) to the 3rd round of the NIT
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Post by foxfanatic on Mar 20, 2023 14:16:19 GMT -5
To no one’s surprise Pitino takes the St John’s job. Wonder who follows him
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Post by rfalum on Mar 20, 2023 14:31:32 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised Iona fans seem to be so shocked/upset about this. Pitino was a flight risk basically from the moment he stepped foot on campus and there was never any reason to take anything he said about the school ("Gonzaga of the east," "I want to retire here," etc.) seriously. As soon as a bigger job opened up, he was gone.
He did well there but I definitely think not winning an NCAA tournament game makes it feel hollow. Iona's really no better off than they were with Cluess before Pitino got there.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Mar 20, 2023 14:57:16 GMT -5
Holloway did well this past year in seton hall but not great ,,and he didn't make the tournament ..If i were some of those Iona players i might wait until the new Iona coaching hire ..this is a tourney team again next year on paper , they just need a half decent coach .Maybe they transfer to Farleigh Dickonson ..haha..
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