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Post by oldfox on Apr 11, 2009 7:05:07 GMT -5
number 1 rated class of 2006 is leaving. This time it's Drey Mingo, a 6-2 forward who graduated from the Marist School in Atlanta, Ga. Frese sure does turn them over doesn't she? Anyway, wonder if there is any chance that Drey could slide into a forward spot in Po-Town the year after next? Don't ever remember a Marist College player, M or F, having Marist H.S. roots. Does anyone else? www.umterps.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/mingo_drey00.html |
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Post by jt71 on Apr 11, 2009 7:27:29 GMT -5
I think Steve Eggink went to Marist High School in Eugene, Oregon
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Post by oldfox on Apr 11, 2009 9:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by nomar33 on Apr 11, 2009 9:44:43 GMT -5
Whether or not the Lyons suit has merrit is irrelivent as either way it is going to hurt the program (short term at least) you don't think other coach's recruiting the same kids as Marist will "as a matter of fact" mention the law suit?
All things being equal that will be a huge strike against us.
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Post by oldfox on Apr 11, 2009 10:56:21 GMT -5
Yes, and I think they would. It's probably happening already, and others may be crossing Marist off their lists before any conversations are even had.
I'm not so sure how huge it will be, and the issue isn't done with yet, right? If the recruit makes a Marist visit they will have the opportunity to speak to the players about their experience at the school. Lyon's wasn't kicked off the team, she was dismissed from the school.
Regarding a coach dropping the info, it would be a strange conversation.
Coach: "I see you are also considering Marist."
Recruit: "Yes coach, I am."
Coach: "You do know that they dismissed a player, and she filed a civil rights suit against the College."
Recruit: "What happened?, Why?"
Coach: "I don't really know."
Recruit: "Oh, I guess I won't consider them anymore."
No responsible school is going to to take a business-as-usual approach with a student or staff member that is in need of services that the school can't provide or if they deem the individual a danger to themselves or others. This I know from my own experience. I would hope the recruit, parent or guardian would factor that in too.
Just trying to make a case the other way.
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Post by nomar33 on Apr 11, 2009 11:06:57 GMT -5
I know but i see it as more a coach saying
Coach "our program has never been investigated by the NCAA and never sued by one of our former players"
LOL
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Post by yankee on Apr 11, 2009 12:41:08 GMT -5
I don't see it as a issue either way. Giorgis has been loved by all of his players for about 20-25 years now or however long he has been coaching in the area. I don't know the guy, but he genuinely is probably just a nice guy who knows how to talk to players and convince them why he can help them. This Lyons thing is a personal issue that will be dealt with. Has nothing to do with the basketball program. I am sure Giorgis won't be affected at all by this, Marist will continue to get the recruits they need to fit his system.
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Post by nomar33 on Apr 11, 2009 13:19:38 GMT -5
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Post by reddy on Apr 11, 2009 14:09:05 GMT -5
Its a cop-out for the school to say it cannot provide the needed services and therefore it was appropriate to dismiss Lyons when its own website says its there for just that purpose.
"Individual Counseling: students come for counseling for a variety of reasons. Some examples are:
¡self-confidence or low self-esteem
¡finding, helping, or losing a relationship
¡depression and anxiety
¡problems with eating habits or body images
¡suicidal thoughts"
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Post by nomar33 on Apr 11, 2009 19:02:35 GMT -5
reddy - i have read the poughkeepsie journals article and Kat's entire complaint and no where does it say that Marist dissmissed Lyons because it cannot provide the needed services. Where did you read that - right now we only have one side of the story.
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Post by yankee on Apr 12, 2009 20:49:01 GMT -5
Kat Lyons is a situation that I plan to basically not talk about. We only have one side and no reason to speculate about the health of a person or the actions of a college when we have no facts.
Is it fairly certain that Marist is not going to sign someone this signing period. Giorgis stated unless something eye popping became available that he planned to save the scolarships for next year?
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Post by nomar33 on Apr 12, 2009 20:51:54 GMT -5
This was posted else where and found it interesting : Unfortunately, it is not uncommon. It is sad when the fear of liability trumps human compassion. However, an easy Google search finds many cases when the parents sued a college or university when their child committed suicide, and you will see the other side of the story. Two of these are before Virginia Tech. Quote: Nott's suit said that in fall 2004, when Nott was a sophomore, information he shared with the University Counseling Center and GW Hospital about his depression was released to University administrators without his permission, leading to his suspension and barring from campus. Nott recently graduated from University of Maryland-College Park, Bower said. Action taken against Nott was issued under the school's "endangering behavior policy." The policy applies to students whom the university suspects pose a danger to themselves and others. media.www.gwhatchet.com/media/storage/paper332/news/2006/11/02/News/University.Settles.Jordan.Nott.Lawsuit-2434643.shtml Quote: A depressed Hunter College student who swallowed handfuls of Tylenol, then saved her own life by calling 911, was in for a surprise when she returned to her dorm room after the ordeal. The lock had been changed. She was being expelled from the dorm, the school informed her, because she violated her housing contract by attempting suicide. The 19-year-old was allowed to retrieve her belongings as a security guard stood watch. mentalhopenews.blogspot.com/2006/09/kicked-out-for-suicide-attempt.html Quote: In the wake of the shootings at Virginia Tech, colleges and universities are paying more attention to students with mental health problems. But in some cases, that has meant that students who complain of serious depression or suicidal thoughts are quickly suspended or expelled. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97713906 (Contains NPR audio re: Jeremy Jackson, suspended from the College of Mount St. Joseph in Cincinnati, Ohio, the day after he told his parents, and they let college officials know, that he was thinking about killing himself.) Quote: When Steven Barber turned in a short story this semester for his creative-writing class at the University of Virginia's College at Wise, his instructor was alarmed. The 23-year-old student had produced an imagined account of someone on the edge of a violent breakdown, touching on suicide and murder. "It had to be acted on immediately," says Christopher Scalia, the instructor. He alerted administrators, who reacted swiftly, searching Mr. Barber's dorm room and car. Upon discovering three guns, they had him committed to a psychiatric institution for a weekend. Then they expelled him. Yet the psychiatrists who evaluated Mr. Barber during his hospitalization determined he was no threat to himself or others. online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121124048245705393-C6h0S850XJ7I9GwIiHnkNxBWxls_20080619.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top |
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Post by oldfox on Apr 13, 2009 18:29:24 GMT -5
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