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Post by yankee on Feb 11, 2023 1:40:29 GMT -5
Honestly, can Marist have done worse last decade if they hired someone like me? 48, no high school or college experience. How much worse could I have done? Pathetic
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Post by yankee on Feb 11, 2023 1:44:02 GMT -5
Honestly, over last 25 years ,Marist has paid men's college head coach how much? 9 million) Murray, how do you think that is good,?
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Post by ggaff on Feb 11, 2023 7:58:36 GMT -5
That's why I said Murray should have been gone a long time ago. You said "it's not just about MBB." I don't think he is the reason behind any any of the "cups". And now WBB sucks too. He has no answers for anything. As I've always said, the only sport that is visible to the majority of fans or gets any press outside of a small circle is MBB. That's the only sport that would give the school good or bad press. So the AD has done a horrific job. Yes they got a little good press for the Sweet 16. That's a distant memory and 75% of sports fans have no idea it happened. But they do know Marist MBB has been bad for 15 yrs. Siena has sucked for the most part in most sports other than MBB for the last 15 yrs. Ask the average fan and they'll assume Siena has the better programs. All because of that sport. Don't have a fb team. Nobody cares.
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Post by ggaff on Feb 11, 2023 8:01:20 GMT -5
And I'm disappointed about Dunne. I don't know what's happened to him that has changed his demeanor. I don't remember him ever being like this at St Peter's.
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Post by ggaff on Feb 11, 2023 8:09:30 GMT -5
But it's typical. His big hires had ties to teams in the conference. You want to establish your own identity. And the "Siena" guy shit on the program. He's clueless.
I still say we should write the prez. I'll do it if you guys will. Need numbers. Nothing nasty. Just asking for a little more effort in turning this mess around.
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Post by ggaff on Feb 11, 2023 8:12:26 GMT -5
President@marist.edu
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 11, 2023 8:18:39 GMT -5
We have hired an assistant from final four team, who was lead recruiter and had ties to MAAC We hired a coach who coached in the NBA and was a scout in NBA as well We then hired a person with HC experience and had unprecedented success at the D3 level We then hired a D1 HC who had been to NCAA with less resources
ALL FAILED in spectacular fashion...... who is the game changer out there?
There is more to it....
It is NOT academics I promise you - this is from the highest level in the administration - there has to be academic fraud or severe discipline issues for a player to be rejected.
So what hasn't changed through all these tenures?
Lets start with the AD ..... micro manager? doesn't give coached freedom to do their job?
Facilities - they are crap
Money - not willing to spend the little bit more necessary - more money might bring in better assistants, put more into recruiting efforts
Social Media - this is a no brainer - how Marist athletics doesn't use this platform better
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Post by fox94 on Feb 11, 2023 8:36:38 GMT -5
Everyone TM hires turns to dung
Maybe he’s the problem? Hmmmm
Facilities - about middle of the road for the conference. I know still suck
Dung looks and acts miserable. He looks and now acts like a defeated frustrated coach. Throwing people out of games? Really?
It’s gotten so bad for so long that alumni are starting to withhold donations. How much longer can they ignore the TM problem? He needs to go. We all know it, admins know it. Stop ignoring it. It’s not going away.
Replace TM now!
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Post by leo16 on Feb 11, 2023 9:14:10 GMT -5
At this point it goes all the way to the board. Even Fairfield and QU on the men's side don't seem to have urgency. Jay Young has yet to have a MAAC winning record, and Dunleavy is getting some results this year but finished 11th last year.
They just don't see the need to enter the arms race. Problem is, it snowballs. The longer the futility the less current students care. Then they care less as alumni, etc. No political/monetary reason to improve McCann arena.
Wouldn't be surprised if they're ok with that...build up the apathy and let the NCAA gut D1 as we know it or drop a level.
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 11, 2023 9:41:27 GMT -5
I think a lot of this is on NCAA also (moving forward - can't blame them for 30 years) - but for me as a fan, I don't care like I used to. Why? Because the players don't really care as much - you used to play for name on front of jersey now it is the name on the back. The mid-major basketball as we knew it is gone. Watch the number of All-Rookie conference players that transfer.
How do you get behind players when you have to worry consistently that the will transfer. How many really think Brickner will be here next year? I certainly don't.
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Post by ggaff on Feb 11, 2023 9:45:46 GMT -5
I sent a letter to the prez. Hopefully, it went through... My e-m is down now.
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 11, 2023 9:48:09 GMT -5
Maybe TM has hacked email and hijacks all emails to President concerning basketball
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Post by foxrules on Feb 11, 2023 10:25:27 GMT -5
Very sad story about this Dad being thrown out of St. Peter's for criticizing the coach. Unless he used foul words coach should be ashamed of himself. Truth be told John D. is doing a horrible job.
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Post by maristdad on Feb 11, 2023 14:17:03 GMT -5
Very sad story about this Dad being thrown out of St. Peter's for criticizing the coach. Unless he used foul words coach should be ashamed of himself. Truth be told John D. is doing a horrible job. With a few minutes left in the first half after turnovers, etc., I yelled, “You stink, Dunne.” When halftime came, the security guard said Coach Dunne wanted us ejected. That’s pretty much it. No profanity, no continued abuse, just one “You stink, Dunne.”
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Post by shooter on Feb 11, 2023 14:45:55 GMT -5
Very sad story about this Dad being thrown out of St. Peter's for criticizing the coach. Unless he used foul words coach should be ashamed of himself. Truth be told John D. is doing a horrible job. With a few minutes left in the first half after turnovers, etc., I yelled, “You stink, Dunne.” When halftime came, the security guard said Coach Dunne wanted us ejected. That’s pretty much it. No profanity, no continued abuse, just one “You stink, Dunne.” Sorry this happened to you. Coach has small d*** energy.
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