fox94
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Post by fox94 on Feb 15, 2020 7:54:26 GMT -5
What is your solution?
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Feb 15, 2020 7:58:10 GMT -5
I just hope no one else leaves this group , it is a good core group
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Post by thoops46 on Feb 15, 2020 8:58:24 GMT -5
Dunne has no "go to guy " on this team that can get a basket in crunch time, no K. Hart or even B. Parker, that would change everything.The effort these guys put out on the defensive side is amazing, you really appreciate it when you watch these games in person. I'm all in with Dunne, when he gets the missing pieces this program gets back on track.
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Post by gafox on Feb 15, 2020 9:37:00 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Put in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. Keep upgrading the facility. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents.
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Post by oldfox on Feb 15, 2020 10:03:00 GMT -5
I just hope no one else leaves this group , it is a good core group Who do you think would leave? Tordorf has lost all his playing time to Sjoberg. I could see him leaving if he was a sophomore and not as a JR. I don't see any of the freshman leaving. They are getting plenty of playing time.
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Post by fox94 on Feb 15, 2020 20:19:41 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Put in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. Keep upgrading the facility. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents. I agree with some of these suggestions especially in regard to the AD. However admin has made it clear academics trump athletics and that is where we are winning. FB and MBB be damned.
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Post by maristdad on Feb 15, 2020 21:18:09 GMT -5
Dunne has no "go to guy " on this team that can get a basket in crunch time, no K. Hart or even B. Parker, that would change everything.The effort these guys put out on the defensive side is amazing, you really appreciate it when you watch these games in person. I'm all in with Dunne, when he gets the missing pieces this program gets back on track. The loss to Fairfield was another game where we would have thought the program would move forward with a win. Still, before the game, we were excited Dunne got Byrd as a "real" point guard for next year. Dunne needs a few years, same as any other coach would get. The team still loses, but unlike previous seasons, I don't think they're taken for granted.
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Post by maristdad on Feb 15, 2020 21:28:34 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Put in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. Keep upgrading the facility. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents. No team in the MAAC garners real media interest, unless an NBA recruit happens on the roster. The scores are mentioned on the radio, and Mike Vaccaro wrote a nice column in the Post. No one really covers St. John's anymore either. The best part of attending a game is that I can pay $13 and see Div. I basketball up close. A Rutgers game in MSG started at $60. And Marist doesn't lack against the MAAC in facilities or attendance. A pre-season tournament is a good idea.
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Post by homebody on Feb 15, 2020 22:14:46 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Put in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. Keep upgrading the facility. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents. No team in the MAAC garners real media interest, unless an NBA recruit happens on the roster. The scores are mentioned on the radio, and Mike Vaccaro wrote a nice column in the Post. No one really covers St. John's anymore either. The best part of attending a game is that I can pay $13 and see Div. I basketball up close. A Rutgers game in MSG started at $60. And Marist doesn't lack against the MAAC in facilities or attendance. A pre-season tournament is a good idea. Look around the stands at the next game. The majority of season ticket holders are senior citizens. We aren't going to drive to away games in the evening . We used to have a few bus trips to away games. We used to have a reasonable chance for a parking place at home. What hasn't changed is the enthusiasm we have for both of the basketball teams. The men are competitive in most games (not 40 point loses) Thanks to coach Dunne & staff. We certainly would like better results.but there is improvement.
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Post by flyingdutchman on Feb 16, 2020 0:10:58 GMT -5
I'd like to add to the discussion as an eternal optimist, recent alum, former Circle Sports columnist and dedicated fan. The bar has been set incredibly low, and anything positive is a win for us. That's the facts. As Marist fans, we enjoy anything positive.
There is expectation and then there is realistic MAAC expectation. As a low-D1 fan, the stakes should be set at a reasonable level. However, the chase to surpass that low level is addicting, and rewarding.
John Dunne is the perfect fit for Marist at this point. He knows what it takes to win in this grueling conference with a complete wild card of talent. Let the man get his guys in (as I reported a few days ago, Byrd is an exceptional get) and he will do just fine. Whether or not that rewards us with a MAAC championship or MAAC Tournament W, we shall see. But I, and hopefully all of you, will be along for the ride.
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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Feb 16, 2020 13:58:21 GMT -5
I was going to post this after a win so Yankee wouldnt have to get upset about someone raining on the parade. But then I thought, what the heck - go ahead and post cause truth is truth regardless of spin. Lately the vast majority of posts have been positive and if someone was new to the board, they might come away thinking the foxes are a decent team. Well they arent and havent been for over a decade. In fact they have been horrendous for a long time. Their winning percentage since the 08-09 season is 27. Their percentage this year is 27. Guys, they lost tonight to the 9th place team in one of the worst conferences in the nation, at home. Their latest coaching answer has a career winning percentage under 40. Feel free to 'educate' me on the challenges Dunne faced at SPC but if he was as good as many of you think, he would have landed a better job than Marist and much sooner. This doesnt mean that I think Dunne is a bad coach. I just dont think he's nearly as good as many of you think. Which gets to the heart of my beef with many on this board. Your expectations are incredibly low. I want Marist to be a good team but what incentive does the school have knowing that they can field a bad team and the fans will be satisfied. And for those that want to tell me about players effort, I would tell you that they are supposed to play with effort. I am not a participation trophy kind of guy. Show me meaningful results. As fans, we get what we expect. We should be expecting much, much more. Time to cut your losses while u still can gafox ,before u look like a fool . Dunne is a great coach .his resume speaks for itself ..getting to the big dance takes expert knowledge ..and his teams have always been competitive in the tourney for the most part ...he's done a great job recruiting ..from here in the u.S and abroad. No low expectations here ...he met expectations last year and has continued wiith a much improved team this year . (much improved from the beginning of the year) ..So wake up and hop aboard the Dunne ship ..it's about to set sail .
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Post by nomar33 on Feb 16, 2020 15:21:59 GMT -5
Heck of a post D2 right before they blow a 10 point half time lead and lose by 8
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Post by foxfanatic on Feb 16, 2020 15:26:13 GMT -5
D2, I am also trying to be positive about the direction of the program. The recruits have shown promise but in the end we have 6 wins. Dunne is a good MAAC coach and IMO is still the best shot she have to turn around the program but if he was a great coach he would have more than 1 MAAC title at this point. Yes his teams are usually competitive in the tourney but those teams would also have more wins at this point in the season. I hope we can finish the season strong but the past 2 games have been important to jump up in the standings but alas we lost them both
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Post by Red Fox 5 on Feb 17, 2020 10:32:43 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Put in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. Keep upgrading the facility. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents. I agree with all of these but realistically I would be shocked if some of these ever happen. The ones I copied and pasted below I especially just dont see Marist doing Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Make it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. A full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Journal cares to cover us.
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Post by hoopsguy123 on Feb 20, 2020 10:45:44 GMT -5
Increase funding for recruiting including a coach that is focused and at least regionally known for recruiting prowess. Don't need more money for that, just hire the right guys. They have two proven recruiters on staff right now with strong ties in the northeast and beyondPut in significant bonus incentives in coach contract for meaningful win milestones. perfectly reasonable, but let's not act like a bonus is going to make the Coach or staff try harder. I guarantee you they want to win bonus or no bonusMake it clear to AD that their job is dependent on a successful bb (and I would add football) record i.e. sustained .500 or better. It's not dependent on that and never will be. The other sports do just fine and nobody above the coaches at Marist cares at all about winning or losing. The only way it could change is if a president came in that cared about athletics, and the board of trustees will never let that happen.A vastly improved schedule with games that both the hard core and casual fans wany to attend. And would garner actual media interest. Easier said than done - Remember the other team has to actually want to play you too. Marist has an advantage in that they do not have to take a ton of buy games to make money, and the AD's stupid rule on playing NEC teams lessens their ability to play geographic rivalsA full court media blitz so someone other than the crap Po Jornal cares to cover us. What does that even mean? stupid suggestion. Host a early season tournament that has at least 1 really good mid-major team. again, easy to say but this isn't magical Christmasland. A really good mid-major team would have to *want* to come, and their are many factors that go into that - dates, the level of competition in the tournament, travel, the rest of their schedule etc.Keep upgrading the facility. I think they have done a fine job on this, there is only so many renovations you can do before you just bite the bullet and build a standalone new athletic arena - which given the money they have sank into McCann, I doubt is what they plan on doing. Charge more for tickets- many people equate price with quality even if quality isnt there initially, it may follow. Silly suggestion, most of the fans go because it is a good value, the price/quality thing is anecdotal at best and probably just false.Big push with the red fox club and out of town fans to package away hames with big name opponents. Sure. I feel they try now to get packages for people to travel to the tournaments when they play somewhere worth going, but it will be easy to get people to invest time in seeing a team play once the team is actually, you know, good.Dunne is doing just fine. Everybody here needs to chill out.
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