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Post by d2basketballwatcher on Jan 18, 2020 13:49:35 GMT -5
Just like the announcers said at last game ..Dunne had a few years of rebuild ,,then St. Peters goes to the NCAA championships ,,he goes into rebuild mode for a few years then CIT championship . This year is Moot ,lets hope we make a little noise . Next year Dunne will be under great pressure to show some big time improvement ..Funny Yankee mentioned that about AD cause i believe after any upcoming season i fear Dunne may say F#$k it and go somewhere else . I think he would be a hot commodity . We have to be patient with Dunne ,no two ways about it .
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Post by tomsoph on Jan 18, 2020 13:54:09 GMT -5
Change isn’t a bad thing Yankee...new blood...new vision...everything has an expiration date Yankee...TM’s is simply up...don’t fight it...embrace it
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Post by yankee on Jan 18, 2020 13:56:59 GMT -5
Change isn’t a bad thing Yankee...new blood...new vision...everything has an expiration date Yankee...TM’s is simply up...don’t fight it...embrace it Give me tangible ways a new AD will help Dunne. I need reasons, not just, "jeez, let's just change for change". If his title was men's basketball manager, then ok, bye. It isn't.
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Post by nomar33 on Jan 18, 2020 14:04:24 GMT -5
19-20 18-19 17-18 16-17 15-16 M Football 4-7 5-6 4-7 5-6 5-6 M Soccer 10-9 8-5-5 7-10-1 11-7-1 7-9-2 M Bball 2-12 12-19 6-25 8-24 7-23 M Baseball 27-26 27-23 32-23 23-28 M Tennis 1-0 11-10 8-6 17-4 14-5 M Lacross 10-7 3-12 10-6 9-7 WBB 11-3 23-10 20-14 15-17 16-16 W Lacross 8-10 10-7 10-9 9-8 W Soccer 8-10 9-8 8-8-3 10-9-1 7-11-2 W Softball 35-22 27-32 37-22 45-13 W Tennis 2-0 7-15 10-9 8-8 8-13 W Volleyball 15-15 14-15 15-16 13-17 21-10 W Wpolo 22-16 20-17 20-14 16-18 NCAA/MAAC Championships last 5 year - 2
Winning Records: 27 Losing Records : 25 Season with in 1 game of .500 : 16
If that is mediocre I don't know what is. How low are your standards Yankee? Is just about not hurting feelings? Making the kids feel that we are all just thankful they are sacrificing their time for the school? That they are giving it there all and deserve that participation trophy?
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Post by yankee on Jan 18, 2020 14:10:37 GMT -5
19-20 18-19 17-18 16-17 15-16M Football 4-7 5-6 4-7 5-6 5-6M Soccer 10-9 8-5-5 7-10-1 11-7-1 7-9-2M Bball 2-12 12-19 6-25 8-24 7-23M Baseball 27-26 27-23 32-23 23-28M Tennis 1-0 11-10 8-6 17-4 14-5M Lacross 10-7 3-12 10-6 9-7WBB 11-3 23-10 20-14 15-17 16-16W Lacross 8-10 10-7 10-9 9-8W Soccer 8-10 9-8 8-8-3 10-9-1 7-11-2W Softball 35-22 27-32 37-22 45-13W Tennis 2-0 7-15 10-9 8-8 8-13W Volleyball 15-15 14-15 15-16 13-17 21-10W Wpolo 22-16 20-17 20-14 16-18 NCAA/MAAC Championships last 5 year - 2 Winning Records: 27 Losing Records : 25 Season with in 1 game of .500 : 16 If that is mediocre I don't know what is. How low are your standards Yankee? Is just about not hurting feelings? Making the kids feel that we are all just thankful they are sacrificing their time for the school? That they are giving it there all and deserve that participation trophy? Men's football and men's basketball 0-10 of those seasons. Men's football could do better, but he was only AD to help keep it in the league. Men's basketball has been a disaster.
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Post by ggaff on Jan 18, 2020 15:39:58 GMT -5
Nothing against the guy. But I do think a breath of fresh air is needed.. I just hope that Dunne is given the resources to succeed.
I'm not sure who handles marketing, but that needs to improve.. I am sort of glad we got a new PA guy. He went too far over the top. He was better in the JJ days.
I wish I was a fly on the wall for the last 10 yrs. Then maybe I'd have the answers to my questions. I applaud Yankee for defending TM. Good guy.. I just don't think their sports programs are as good as they should be. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations. The football team is the same every year. Baseball has been pretty good. Tennis has been great.
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Post by fox94 on Jan 18, 2020 19:27:55 GMT -5
A breath of fresh air is badly needed.
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Post by yankee on Jan 18, 2020 19:34:01 GMT -5
A breath of fresh air is badly needed. Glad you finally chimed in on this topic. I wasnt sure where you stood on TM:)
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Post by petagay77 on May 8, 2020 13:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by artdunbar on Jun 18, 2020 13:33:27 GMT -5
Found this article on Coach Dunne from 2011 by Steve Amedio
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 Saint Peter's Gives Classy Dunne Extention Saint Peter's men's basketball coach John Dunne is certainly one of my favorite conference program directors.
OK, in the interest of being politcally correct, your hoopscribe has 10 favorite men's coaches and 10 favorite women's coaches.
But, sometimes, a few sneak a nose in front in the estimation of your humble scribe, and so it is with Dunne, who I have probably had a knowledge of longer than any conference coach.
My first sighting of the Peacocks' coach came in the late 1980s when he was still a high school player at fabled Archbishop Molloy High School, starting in the backcourt alongside Kenny Anderson, who would go on to a spectacular career at Georgia Tech and, then, with several NBA teams.
That team was loaded with future college talent (among them was Robert Werdann, a 6-11 center who played at St. John's, had a few years in the NBA and is not an assistant coach with the New Orleans Hornets).
Dunne was the prototypical "good teammate" more than willing to defer while doing the dirty work of playing defense, hustling and making good passes that often gets overlooks.
And, so it has been for much of Dunne's professional coaching career, one in which he never had the proverbial silver spoon. Dunne has worked his way up through the ranks as much as anyone.
After graduating from Ithaca College he began his coaching career at Wilkes University a Division III program in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
From there he went to Western Michigan as an assistant, back to Wilkes and then to Division II Adelphi, where he worked under current Orlando Magic assistant coach Steve Clifford.
From there he made his first move to Division I as an assistant at Manhattan and, then, moved to Siena under Paul Hewitt and, then, Louis Orr. When Orr moved on to Seton Hall, Dunne went with him. When Orr was fired after five seasons at Seton Hall, Dunne was fortunate enough to be offered his first position as a head coach, at Saint Peter's.
Fortunate? Only if you consider taking over a program that just graduated its all-time best player, guard Keydren Clark, and was otherwise lacking in talent. Dunne walked into a decimated program that could only manage 11 total victories in his first two seasons.
But, the subsequent three years, populated with his recruits, have produced 47 wins, including 20 this past season, the program's first 20-win season since 1990-91.
It also produced Saint Peter's first trip to the NCAA tournament sinc 1995.
The storybook season earned Dunne some interest elsewhere, but he has ultimately opted to remain at Saint Peter's and, last week, the school announced a contract extention for him through the 2015-16 season.
Before the extention, Dunne was not only the lowest-paid coach in the MAAC, but one of the lowest of any Division I program. Although no financial details were released in the new deal, the likelihood is that Dunne was rewarded to the extent that he is now at least in the middle of the pack in salary terms, of conference coaches.
The 41-year old Dunne, for sure, has paid his dues in moving up the ranks in college coaching. And, he has done so with unrivaled class.
At Saint Peter's, Dunne hardly has the best resources to attract players to his programs. Besides being relatively underfunded, the school's gym barely rivals those of many high schools. The school's location is far from the suburban environment several other MAAC schools can offer.
And, during his team's recent run to the MAAC tournament's championship this past March Dunne was asked about the difficulty of being a head coach considering the seemingly obvious handicaps at his school, about having what appears to be the toughest job in the MAAC.
"I don't buy into that `toughest job' thing," said Dunne. "At the end of the day sometimes you ... it's the people within the building, not the building that make the difference. I care about these guys. I'd go to war for these guys. We might have our differences but we stick together. These guys have always persevered and it just comes down to people. You don't have to have the nicest house on the block. I think our guys like Saint Peter's. I think we have great people."
Great people, indeed, and Dunne can certainly include himself in that crowd.
He is the epitome of class, and anyone who been around long enough to follow his career or, even, just long enough to have heard his comments about his school, can attest to that.
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Post by ctfoxfan on Jun 18, 2020 17:13:03 GMT -5
Funny statement by the AD. This was last year or just after Dunne got the job. He said "I'm not naive enough to think he'll be here forever." As if they were going to win 20 a year like Fran and he'd be gone after 3 yrs. I think the AD is naive. He must not realize how much he's run a good program down. As one poster said. He's the common thread. If Marist cared about sports like we want them to, he'd have been gone yrs ago.. They just don't have the right mentality. The announcers even play into the loser's mentality. You'd figure at one point, they'd say "isn't it ridiculous that a school as good as Marist has been bad so long?" It really is ridiculous. This isn't a shot at Dunne either. I like him. You'd figure a good coach like him would come to a great school like this and get anybody he wants at the MAAC level. I just don't get it. I'm not giving up on this team or the new kids. All have shown flashes. I'm just pissed that we're in this situation. It is truly amazing TM still has a job. Clearly he has 8x10 glossy's of the board members with some farm animals.
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Post by yankee on Jun 18, 2020 17:16:41 GMT -5
Funny statement by the AD. This was last year or just after Dunne got the job. He said "I'm not naive enough to think he'll be here forever." As if they were going to win 20 a year like Fran and he'd be gone after 3 yrs. I think the AD is naive. He must not realize how much he's run a good program down. As one poster said. He's the common thread. If Marist cared about sports like we want them to, he'd have been gone yrs ago.. They just don't have the right mentality. The announcers even play into the loser's mentality. You'd figure at one point, they'd say "isn't it ridiculous that a school as good as Marist has been bad so long?" It really is ridiculous. This isn't a shot at Dunne either. I like him. You'd figure a good coach like him would come to a great school like this and get anybody he wants at the MAAC level. I just don't get it. I'm not giving up on this team or the new kids. All have shown flashes. I'm just pissed that we're in this situation. It is truly amazing TM still has a job. Clearly he has 8x10 glossy's of the board members with some farm animals. we know more about his worth to the program than the people who run the school? Do you trust D murray?
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Post by ggaff on Jun 19, 2020 5:39:00 GMT -5
What are we talking about here? The AD again? I think we've been pretty mediocre overall, especially for how great the school has done. You would figure that it would go hand in hand. I don't think the sports programs have elevated them at all. Not as good as they should be. Good sportsmanship. Definitely. Performance. Average..
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Post by kjones77 on Jun 19, 2020 16:54:44 GMT -5
It is truly amazing TM still has a job. Clearly he has 8x10 glossy's of the board members with some farm animals. we know more about his worth to the program than the people who run the school? Do you trust D murray? Does he have 8x10 glossy's of you too?
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Post by yankee on Jun 20, 2020 14:55:08 GMT -5
What are we talking about here? The AD again? I think we've been pretty mediocre overall, especially for how great the school has done. You would figure that it would go hand in hand. I don't think the sports programs have elevated them at all. Not as good as they should be. Good sportsmanship. Definitely. Performance. Average.. Do you trust D. Murray?
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