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Post by oldfox on Nov 30, 2009 21:01:09 GMT -5
You can tell why HC sucks too. Any competent opponent would have made up the deficit. Marist playing hard, and getting some better results. Rusin needs to start. 3-3's in the second half. He was actually was in the starting lineup tonight...and Kaba played better coming off the bench. All in all they played decent in the second half. Kaba, Rusin and actually Price all had good 2nd half's. I missed most of the 1st half. Good move by Coach to start Rusin. Look like the benching motivated Kaba too. Dean Darling, "The season starts with Fairfield on Thursday." Good to know these first 4 didn't count.
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Post by imisshuff on Nov 30, 2009 21:05:41 GMT -5
missed a lot of easy shots in the first half, mainly layups, could have been a lot closer. My mom who doesnt follow basketball at all went to the game with my dad, an HC alum, just called to say Bauer is a stiff, missed a bunch of layups, and was huffing and puffing begging martin to take him out of the game... hopefully he only gets 8-12 min a game once the semester ends.... also said rusin played very well good thing he is starting right now, has to be a confidence boost.
btw Oldfox, love the picture and caption lol!
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Post by oldfox on Nov 30, 2009 21:20:34 GMT -5
btw Oldfox, love the picture and caption lol! Thanks! Having a sense of humor helps in times like these.
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Post by ctfoxfan on Nov 30, 2009 21:41:31 GMT -5
Positives?
Price scored.
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Post by Mike on Nov 30, 2009 21:48:30 GMT -5
bauer definetly looked out of place. rusin was solid on offensive and made some good plays on defense. daye looked better coming off the bench, devin price looked like he knew what he was doing. the second half was much much better than the first. if we played the first half like we did the second we could have scraped away with a Win
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Post by yankee on Nov 30, 2009 22:37:11 GMT -5
I am not as down on this team after the way they came out in the 2nd half. Think about it. They have no post presence right now. Add Drummond, it opens it for the guards to drive more and get better looks. Right now, teams can just lock down on the scorers. Drummond should change some of that. And, as hard as Goodwin plays, he is not a point guard on even a D2 team at this point. Hopefully Marist is building some camerderie being on the road for first 6 games (STUPID scheduling). I still have some hopes for this year. I think it was big they didn't justs shut down after the first half and whats happened so far. Sucks they start with a hot Fairfield and Rider, but if they can be competitive in those games, rest of season will not be as bad as we all probably think right now.
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Post by yankee on Nov 30, 2009 22:37:36 GMT -5
Only downer if you think about it is we can not get an at large now:(. Oh well.
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Post by Red Fox 5 on Nov 30, 2009 23:21:37 GMT -5
I am not as down on this team after the way they came out in the 2nd half. Think about it. They have no post presence right now. Add Drummond, it opens it for the guards to drive more and get better looks. Right now, teams can just lock down on the scorers. Drummond should change some of that. And, as hard as Goodwin plays, he is not a point guard on even a D2 team at this point. Hopefully Marist is building some camerderie being on the road for first 6 games (STUPID scheduling). I still have some hopes for this year. I think it was big they didn't justs shut down after the first half and whats happened so far. Sucks they start with a hot Fairfield and Rider, but if they can be competitive in those games, rest of season will not be as bad as we all probably think right now. I agree the second half was biggest positive of the season so far. Hall and Drummond will help this team alot.
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Post by ken on Dec 1, 2009 11:32:18 GMT -5
Patience is needed here. Everyone must go through the pain. Players, coaches and fans. Maybe not such a bad thing to be away from the McCann center now. It would really hurt the young guys if the fans at home boo them early on in their development. I agree there is no leadership, now. Hope Martin finds someone in this group who has the right personality to be a leader on the court. Oh and also has the ability to be on the court when it matters. It would be nice to have a go-to guy but that is likely asking too much at this stage.
Korey should not be playing more than 10 - 12 minutes per game. He has no game at all. He is just a sub who will be giving Drummond rest time.
After listening to Weir and Darling for 25+ years I've learned to block out their totally ridiculous statements. You'd think Marist could find some guys who know how to think before they speak; Dean is OK but Mike is awful. That said, it sounded like the guys played like they should in the second half. Too bad they continue to play so poorly at the start of the game. It will get better in a few weeks. Then we can expect close losses.
Lastly, I totally agree we have the coach who will remain nameless for the majority of the mess we're in now.
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Post by foxman on Dec 1, 2009 14:40:03 GMT -5
New to this board but a long-time follower of the Marist men. I think things will really improve when Drummond and Hall start to play, especially if Drummond is a threat on the offensive end (in addition to rebounding). Good teams have a consistent #1 and #2 scorer - Drummond needs to be one of them, with the other being one of the wing players (Kaba, Rusin, Prescott).
Hall's value will be as a leader (he is a vocal player ) and distributor. Pass ... Pass ... Pass ...
Through 4 games, the freshman have played more than 50% of the minutes, which will help them develop but does not translate into wins early on. When Drummond and Hall play, the freshmen minutes will go down, which will be a good thing.
Bauer is what he is ... a backup. The rotation on the baseline will be Drummond, Bauer, and Johnson (who I think is a face-up player, not a post player; so, some player development is required by the coaching staff for Johnson). Bauer and Johnson need to concentrate on defense and rebounding, leaving the scoring to Drummond and the wing players. Hopefully we will see more of Johnson and less of Bauer when Drummond in on board.
On the wings I think the rotation will be Kaba, Prescott, Rusin, and Carter. With Drummond and Johnson playing more down low, Kaba can stop focusing on rebounding (which is what he's doing now) and begin to concentrate on scoring, developing into the first or second option on offense (with Drummond). Prescott is a slasher and Rusin a shooter, so, Martin can mix and match. .
A key to the balance of the season is the PG position. Goodwin has taken one for the team so far but the experiment of him as PG will mercifully end when Hall gets back. Hall will start with Price as back-up. Goodwin to the bench.
The key to success this season is Drummond. We know he can rebound based on his work at Villanova and his presence will help greatly on interior defense (shot-blocking). Hopefully, he will be a presence down low on offense so that perimeter shots will be more open (think Rusin).
Al McQuire said it best ... the best thing about freshmen players is that they become sophomores. Given the major minutes that the freshman are playing, they should round into sophomore form in the second have of the season. Should be fun.
In reality though, think next year since most of the better clubs in the MAAC will lose major senior talent when this season ends ....
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Post by ctfoxfan on Dec 1, 2009 20:58:46 GMT -5
welcome, foxman. nice first post.
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Post by cornelius on Dec 1, 2009 22:14:31 GMT -5
Honestly...I think Price is the only pure point guard on the team. But he's raw and still figuring it out.
You know whats interesting and what nobody has brought up yet. Seeing as though the team is filled with Freshman and Transfers, team roles haven't been assigned.
I bet these guys played all summer trying to rip eachothers heads off. I bet the early practices were about outshining other teammates in the hopes of getting more minutes. Since there is no upperclass, I bet the freshman think they can outplay the upperclassmen, and I bet the upperclassman dont want to help the freshman because if they perform to well they might lose "their" spot.
It won't be until everyone accepts their role on this 2009-2010 team that the chemistry will be enough to play well. They dont play well together because they dont trust eachother yet.
The team has too much talent...imagine...this Freshman class as Juniors!!!
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